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Why Do Pete's Harbor Owners Owe $406,000 to the State?

When word came out that the Uccellis owe $406,000 in back rent to the state, many questioned how they came up with that number - here's how.

Earlier this week, Patch broke the story that Paula Uccelli and her late husband Pete Uccelli - the founders and owners of Pete's Harbor - had not paid any of their rent on the outer harbor to the state for the roughly 28 years they have been leasing it.

At the Dec. 5 meeting of the State Lands Commission (SLC) - attended by the Uccellis' attorney Ted Hannig, as well as many tenants and supporters of Pete's Harbor - SLC Chief Counsel Jennifer Lucchesi said the estimated amount now owed to the state was "$406,000, give or take."

Many Patch readers have commented, saying they were scratching their heads, wondering how the state came up with that number.

Here's information from the SLC, to answer that question.

 

A break-down of the fees, courtesy of the SLC

Shelli Haaf, an attorney for the SLC, said, "more than half" of that roughly $406,000 amount is made up of penalties and fees.

Here is the full text of Haaf's e-mail:

"The State entered into two leases with Peter Uccelli, dba 'Pete’s Harbor,' in 1984 (those leases are coded as 'PRC 6856 and 6857). PRC 6856 has a graduated rent schedule as directed by Chapter 447, Statutes of 1983 (special legislation re: Pete’s Harbor) and PRC 6857 has a rental rate of $1,680 per year for the term of the lease. 

Both leases provide that any rent unpaid be subject to penalty and interest pursuant to Public Resources Code § 6224.  Penalties are assessed at 5% of the principal sum due, and the rate of interest is 18% from the date on which the sum became due and payable, until the date of payment. 

The following explanation is provided to illustrate how the $406,941.05 due on both leases through Dec. 1, 2012 (daily interest continues to accrue on both leases) was calculated.

For example, a $75 penalty would be assessed for each delinquent $1,500 yearly rental payment (e.g. years 1-10 of PRC 6856).  When the rent graduates to $2,500/year, a $125 penalty would then apply, and so on. 

With regard to interest, the longer the monthly rental payment goes unpaid, the more interest is owed, and continues to accrue until paid.  In short, the amount of interest accrued on past due rental payments is considerable and represents more than half of the $406,941.05 due on both leases (as calculated through December 1, 2012).

 

Should the Uccellis have to pay penalties?

As Patch explained in our article earlier this week, attorney Ted Hannig spoke before the SLC at the Dec. 5 meeting and said that, for the roughly 28 years the Uccellis have been leasing the land from the state, they have made repeated attempts to try and pay their rent, but the state has refused to tell them how and where to do so.

Hannig said both Pete and Paula Uccelli and he, himself, have made repeated calls to the SLC asking where they should mail their checks, with no calls returned.

Hannig said Paula Ucelli even met in person with a member of the SLC once and said she whipped out her checkbook right then and there, asking if she could write a check on the spot, but the SLC member said he or she didn't know the exact amount she owed to date, and promised that she would receive a call with instructions - which Hannig also said was never received.

Hannig said the Uccellis even asked a friend in Congress to help, and that the Congressman made calls on their behalf to the SLC asking where they could send money, but even he got no response.

Hannig also said he sent a good-faith check of $20,000 to the state in the past, but that the check was never cashed.

PATCH WANTS TO KNOW - Given those claims, do you think the Uccellis should have to pay 'more than half' of the amount owed in penalties - meaning, over $200,000 in fees? Tell us in the comments below.

Deputy State Controller Alan Gordon, who ran the Dec. 5 meeting of the SLC, has asked Chief Counsel Lucchesi to calculate a new number that did not include any fees or penalities, implying that he may decide to take pity on the Uccellis and not charge them more than the "straight rent." No word has been received yet on whether that will happen.

Another Patch reader who commented our story brought up the point that, since Hannig said Paula Uccelli has been depositing rent checks from the outer harbor tenants into a separate bank account all this time, waiting for the moment she was told where to send the money, that she may have been collecting quite a bit of interest on this money over the past 28 years. 

If so, do you think Paula Uccelli should be allowed to keep that interest? Or should that be given to the state as well? Join the conversation in the comments below.

Patch will continue to follow this story.

Haaf's response came to questions posed by researchers for The Journal of Local History, which is published by the Archives Committee at the Redwood City Public Library.

 

 

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Lou Covey, The Local Motive December 31, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Furthermore, many of the people that voted in that election are no longer here. So even if young have the will of the people, you will not know that for sure until you bring the issue before the people that are in the electorate now.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive December 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm
But let me be perfectly clear. I called you (when you invited me to) and talked to you for about an hour. At the end of that discussion, I was completely confused by what you hoped to accomplish or what evidence you had to support your position. Paula called me and explained her position in 5 minutes with great clarity. She invited me to call Ted. I did and he not only clearly stated his position in 5 minutes but sent me documentation. I watched the videos, read the meeting notes and found more to believe and accept as logical from their side. There was no emotion, just facts. I accept that you are emotional about this and try to put that into consideration. But when the issue is the greater good for Redwood City is put into the equation, your position is untenable.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive December 31, 2012 at 10:42 pm
So if you want me in the argument on your side, present me with the answers to these questions:
Does Paula have the right to retire and sell her property excluding the land leased from the state (the two are separate so let's be specific.)? Does the purchaser of that property have a right to build on the property that he has purchased as long as it is approved by the city? Does the developer have the right to apply to take over the leases of state land? Those are the only issues I am concerned about.. If the answer to any of those is no, then I would like to know why. Whether you should be allowed to moor in the outer harbor is between you and the state. If you want to submit an application to build a marina on state lands that is between you and the state.
Enquiring Mind January 4, 2013 at 12:37 am
AM: ...the last time it was discussed was 2003, voted down in 2004 by the voters..."
Are you referring to Measure Q which was on the ballot in November 2004? Measure Q had nothing to do with Pete's Harbor and everything to do with Redwood City Ordinance No. 1130-332 which amended the City Zoning Map creating a new zoning designation of Planned Community (P) District with height limitations of up to 240 feet. Previously the height limitation was 75 feet.
Enquiring Mind January 4, 2013 at 12:41 am
Did you get the update yet?
Jennifer van der Kleut (Editor) January 4, 2013 at 01:19 am
UPDATE: A member of the State Lands Commission called me back over the holiday break and told me that they are still in the process of trying to reach a settlement between the SLC and the Uccelli family regarding the years of back rent owed. So, in essence, no update yet, but she promised to call me back and let me know once some sort of settlement is reached and there is anything new to report. - Editor J.V.
Sarah Adams March 12, 2013 at 11:24 am
What happened with this issue? Was it resolved by payment in full?
Jennifer van der Kleut (Editor) March 12, 2013 at 11:28 am
Sarah - yes! Here are the articles detailing the payments made:
http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/articles/situation-heats-up-between-pete-s-harbor-owner-and-the-state http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/articles/update-pete-s-harbor-tenants-state-respond-to-uccelli
Sarah Adams March 12, 2013 at 11:49 am
Thanks for the fast reply Jennifer! Trying to catch up on this Pete's Harbor story is confusing.
Alison Madden March 12, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Sarah call me today at 650.924.5004 I see you have posted on 4 stories. Smith Slough was both outer and inner harbor, the inner harbor was given to the Uccellis in a 1983 Act of the legislature based on fishy claims of cloudy title, and now people are trying to keep the outer harbor from being privatized. Check out the Redwood City planning commission site about PH, it shows the bay being privatized for condo owners. That has all changed because of our involvement, imagine thinking you can privatize the Bay. The State Lands Commission has weighed in and advised that the outer harbor must commercial and open to the public. Jennifer do you have the 9 page letter from Ted Hannig ranting and raving at the beginning of the year? I can send it. The SLC would have given them more time to discuss settlement of potentially a lower amount if the harbor had simply let the tenants stay during negotiations. Hannig called it a "Hobson's choice". Really? That's such a tough choice? Pay less than what you think you owe, let people stay while we discuss this thing, don't evict them in the middle of winter, everyone wins. A Hobson's choice?
Jennifer van der Kleut (Editor) March 12, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Yes I have the letter, we published some excerpts of it after they first made the payment. Thanks!
Sarah Adams March 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm
I made a comment about this here http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/blog_posts/a-nice-chat-with-alison-madden-about-petes-harbor#comments_list too. I mostly did not understand why to pay up when closing down the place. Thank you for more information Alison. I don't know what a Hobson's choice is. I looked it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobson%27s_choice here. So are the horses the tenants? If the owner wanted different tenants, the owner could do that without really closing the marina. So, is the marina still open but now it will be able to have different tenants? That is a reason to pay all that money that I did not understand why to pay.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive March 12, 2013 at 01:05 pm
Sarah, the marina is no longer open. It is being remodeled for the new development. The developer has modified his plans to include a public marina but will not be allowing liveaboards. That is really the issue here. A handful of people want to be allowed to live on their boats.
Alison Madden March 12, 2013 at 03:57 pm
Sarah, I like you already. You've already done more research than the journalists covering this. It's complicated. The marina was in material default and notified of same by SLC. If they had not paid, they would have lost the lease. However, the lease also requires operating a commercial harbor and marina. As early as last Sept. the owner said I'm closing it no matter what, deal or no deal, development or none. And her attorney has repeated this. In Nov. tenants were served with Notice of Termination of lease, and many are now being sued in unlawful detainer, although the SLC has said they want a commercial marina here. The SLC will decide whether to transfer the small/consent lease and we have asked that it only transfer on condition of keeping liveaboards (*consistent with the public trust as reflected in the 1983 act that gave Pete the inner harbor, let him build a berm for his house and left the restaurant piling on former state land). So, this is closure, now the harbor is backtracking and saying it is closed 'for repairs and upgrades' but has failed and/or refused to give SLC its upgrade plan. They've had since July (and they say we've had since Sept. to move). There does not appear to be an upgrade plan and the harbormaster admitted in court yesterday that you don't need an empty marina to upgrade and repair. Call me really for the whole story, it's been hard fought by a lot of people, and closing arguments are at 3:30 today on floor 8 of County Center in that trial.
Alison Madden March 12, 2013 at 03:57 pm
Sarah, I like you already. You've already done more research than the journalists covering this. It's complicated. The marina was in material default and notified of same by SLC. If they had not paid, they would have lost the lease. However, the lease also requires operating a commercial harbor and marina. As early as last Sept. the owner said I'm closing it no matter what, deal or no deal, development or none. And her attorney has repeated this. In Nov. tenants were served with Notice of Termination of lease, and many are now being sued in unlawful detainer, although the SLC has said they want a commercial marina here. The SLC will decide whether to transfer the small/consent lease and we have asked that it only transfer on condition of keeping liveaboards (*consistent with the public trust as reflected in the 1983 act that gave Pete the inner harbor, let him build a berm for his house and left the restaurant piling on former state land). So, this is closure, now the harbor is backtracking and saying it is closed 'for repairs and upgrades' but has failed and/or refused to give SLC its upgrade plan. They've had since July (and they say we've had since Sept. to move). There does not appear to be an upgrade plan and the harbormaster admitted in court yesterday that you don't need an empty marina to upgrade and repair. Call me really for the whole story, it's been hard fought by a lot of people, and closing arguments are at 3:30 today on floor 8 of County Center in that trial.
Sarah Adams March 12, 2013 at 04:00 pm
Lou I am glad to hear this too it will not be gone altogether, I just read many more comments here on Patch. This series of stories of the marina should be consolidated or indexed since it is so hard to find everything. It looks like many battles. I see Alison was a main player for a while and have been involved in most if not all of the stories on the Patch but I'm sorry that her own role has such a debacle as this story relates. http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/articles/group-of-harbor-tenants-counter-developer-s-offer-ask-for-over-1-million
Sarah Adams March 12, 2013 at 04:08 pm
So still you are involved and you fight for your people! Good for you. I cannot be there at County Center 3:30 today but good luck to you, Alison
Jennifer van der Kleut (Editor) March 12, 2013 at 04:33 pm
Thanks for the suggestion Sarah. I have created a "topic page" to serve as a hub to all of our coverage of the Pete's Harbor sale/development debate. A link is below, and shortly it will also show up in the News menu above (scroll over News in the top menu and the topic page should appear as a choice to click on).
http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/topics/petes-harbor
Alison Madden March 12, 2013 at 05:56 pm
Sarah, yes I am most definitely involved. I went to 2/22 SLC meeting, pls check it out, hopefully I can find the link (CSPAN). I went on 10/1 to Lt. Gov office, 12/5 (see tinyurl/slcvid) and on 1/24 and 2/22. There was no debacle, only some people want to 'spin' it that way. I not only represent a half dozen people defending them against UDs, but dozens more who are and are not on the "SPH" tenants group. Plus some other former clients desired to avoid lawsuits and I referred them to conflicts counsel. My role has not been a debacle, it's what comes with the territory. I've been pressured to buy or sell out twice. Godspeed to the yahoo group who claims to speak for all tenants, but they do not speak for many, if not most, of the former tenants or RWC community members. There was no desire to settle for money, the Pauls Corp. wanted to speak with current and former tenants, and not members of community activist groups. That is their prerogative. What we went back with ( a large group of residents ) was a request to run a marina and not leave during construction. The SLC will decide the fate of the leases, but every day people are coming up to me and thanking me and wishing me well for developing this argument, the one that so far has not fallen on deaf ears (thank you SLC for being open and deliberative). Call me.
Duped by Paula March 12, 2013 at 07:06 pm
I heard it was you as the trailer owner and one boat owner from the inner harbor and one from the outer harbor. Three talked to the guy. Where are all these others that you represented so nice? Ha.
Alison Madden March 12, 2013 at 07:43 pm
I'm not sure what you mean by nice, and I'm unsure who duped by paula is, or refers to. Paula did not engineer this, maybe you meant Pauls. In any event, you can't bring 21, 40, or 1000 people to a meeting. We listened. We did not say or rep anything. And they gave us a Term Sheet that we made available to a very large group of current and former tenants. It was unacceptable from first glance, and a clear buy out attempt. The craziness that ensued was a bunch of emotional crap that resulted in an opportunistic media show for people who wanted to spin it as something nefarious. It was a 20 year resident of the harbor, myself and another long term resident, all 3 of us named on the Complaint, so it was a reasonable move to go with 3 people who stuck their necks out for potential infamy. Rest is history, or her-story if you know the drama. Please identify yourself in the future, it give credibility. Long story short, this event happens in all developments, how it is handled is the test of maturity and discipline. A very large group of active tenants discussed the term sheet and appropriately rejected it. The $ was added at the insistence of someone who said we should quanify what the total would be if the entire marina population had been extended the same offer to leave. Hence the total amount, which was never intended to be a serious part of the negotiations. In fact it was not a trade off. We asked for a harbor run by tenants, and not to leave. The journalists got this.
Duped by Paula March 13, 2013 at 03:24 pm
"it's been hard fought by a lot of people, and closing arguments... in that trial" ? you make that sound like your working on it together with the lawyer there. That trial you're talking is one fella fighting to save his boat and not any bunch of people other than some of those people you keep trying to trip up. Seems like you would shy away from advertising that trial. His lawyer Wade is a guy that used to have some ties to the old Pennisula Marina that the same development guy bought and run everyone out of.
Good guys working to get what they need done right. I hear they succeeded in holding out for a bit more time. I heard you don't have anything to do with that case but with you sounding here like you do, maybe your helping that lawyer. Be nice of you to do that for sure since I heard you gave that boat owner a chance for you to represent him and he said no. The lawyer he got Wade Church has a linked in account I looked up here http://www.linkedin.com/pub/wade-s-church/39/392/294 He looks real good to be involved in all this with all his background before becoming a lawyer. I will keep the faith that he succeeds with his work over there if he helps out some more of the folks at Pete''s while you do whatever it is that your doing. Being duped isn't OK. Me and a bunch of others were "duped by Paula" for sure not by Pauls or other folks.
Alison Madden March 13, 2013 at 06:14 pm
Here's the comment, unsure why they sometimes don't show more quickly:
""it's been hard fought by a lot of people, and closing arguments... in that trial" ? you make that sound like your working on it together with the lawyer there. That trial you're talking is one fella fighting to save his boat and not any bunch of people other than some of those people you keep trying to trip up. Seems like you would shy away from advertising that trial. His lawyer Wade is a guy that used to have some ties to the old Pennisula Marina that the same development guy bought and run everyone out of. Good guys working to get what they need done right. I hear they succeeded in holding out for a bit more time. I heard you don't have anything to do with that case but with you sounding here like you do, maybe your helping that lawyer. Be nice of you to do that for sure since I heard you gave that boat owner a chance for you to represent him and he said no. The lawyer he got Wade Church has a linked in account I looked up here http://www.linkedin.com/pub/wade-s-church/39/392/294 He looks real good to be involved in all this with all his background before becoming a lawyer. I will keep the faith that he succeeds with his work over there if he helps out some more of the folks at Pete''s while you do whatever it is that your doing. Being duped isn't OK. Me and a bunch of others were "duped by Paula" for sure not by Pauls or other folks."
Enquiring Mind March 13, 2013 at 09:02 pm
Why are you reposting Dupe's comment?
Alison Madden March 13, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Because it showed up in my email and not on the thread. You can't bring 21 people to a meeting. They asked to talk to 3 people, current or former tenants. I had been authorized by the group to reach out, and I copied the group on the email that I sent. The Pauls Corp. expected us to share the discussion with a larger group, which we did immediately. There were a couple dozen people involved in discussing the term sheet, which was immediately rejected. When it was first given to me, I realized it for what it was and did not recommend to anyone that we sign it. We went back to them and said we wanted liveaboards, to not leave, to run a marina ourselves, etc. so it's crazy and illogical and even downright fraudulent to suggest anything else.
KellyG March 17, 2013 at 04:13 pm
Jennifer, this topic page http://redwoodcity-woodside.patch.com/topics/petes-harbor is a dead link.
Jennifer van der Kleut (Editor) March 17, 2013 at 09:05 pm
Aha, I figured out what the glitch was. It should work now.
Occupy Redwood City March 20, 2013 at 11:31 am
Interesting that a friend of Paula Uccelli like Lou Covey is contradicting her own claims by saying the marina is "no longer open." The State Lands Commission requires that Paula Uccelli keep the marina open and Paula has tried to get around that by saying that yes, the marina is still open and that she is only kicking people out and putting up chain links fences and locking up facilities to "make repairs" to the marina.
The SLC has asked that she submit a work plan for these so-called repairs AND address how they will impact her tenants. Mr. Covey is stating the truth in that Paula has closed the marina, but it's very telling that her friends are saying one thing while she is telling the SLC another.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive March 20, 2013 at 11:41 am
If people are being evicted and access is being blocked for repairs, how is that still open. What is your definition of open?
Lou Covey, The Local Motive March 20, 2013 at 11:43 am
... And did it really take you 8 days to parse together that logic? Really scraping the bottom of the brain barrel ORC.

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Vanessa Castañeda (Editor) June 14, 2013 at 01:28 pm
Good question, cipiazza. This is probably related to a sewage pipeline replacement project takingRead More place nearby.
Alison Madden June 16, 2013 at 07:33 pm
Vanessa and ctpiazza, Buckley Stone at Pete's Harbor says it is because some time ago the CityRead More dredged near muni and ran a pipe under to spill it out at Bair Island, so it is actually the remains of rotting sea life. He knows so much about this area having been at Pete's for 20 years and knowing so much about the area the tides and the nature and land around here.